Here are a few user comments from 04/02/14 which were posted on a thread about the eBay alternative eBid. The amount of likes and reposts these comments were getting lead me to believe all is not as it seems over at the eBay wonderland, these are comments from eBay sellers and buyers a sad state of affairs and some good points, some small scam story’s in there too. Out of the 13 pages I went through every post was a bad one, one after another, there might have been 2/3 eBay fan posts in the lot.
A scam that happens all too over, you think your buying a item but get a photo of that item, happens all the time Apple stuff, high end phones, electronics don’t really matter its just a photo. Buried somewhere in the title, description will be “photo” and the hope is that someone will bid up and buy it without thinking which is the very nature of eBay buyers they never read the listings (legitimate or not) he will get his money back via the buyer protection, but it goes to show that buyers need to be more aware. The item used in this scam is a Xbox One console.
Work this out, a buyer buys a dog collar but has no dog, they bought it to wear on there head, they now want to return it, but the seller has a no returns policy and how are you going to return a item you bought and used the wrong way? who is at fault here? The stories comments generally point to “you cant win” “ebay will screw you” “pay up”
Came across a story this morning where a guy lost the $50K Twitter account “@N” a one letter user name account. I know it involves Twitter, GoDaddy mainly but the attacker who stole the account was able to get PayPal employees to just randomly hand him bits of info (credit cards, account passes) over the phone, pretending to be a PayPal employee at one point (to another PayPal employee you would think they had a check for that), so I thought it was relevant to post it up as it shows PayPal’s total stupidity also eventually the attacker explains how he was able to abuse PayPal to obtain the info he needed to get thru to GoDaddy and carry on his antics.
Quite a strange one but I can see how it could happen, a seller listed in this case some baseball cards which had not yet been released, when the buyer won the item they would get it when it was released, however the time frame between the buyer winning the item and the item actually being released and then add in the suspended seller pushed the buyer over the time limit for a dispute. I am sure eBay has controls in place for this, I have seen warnings when new games consoles came out and Apple gadgets so I assume theirs something.
Here is something I stumbled across, it seems to be a collection of quotes and random ramblings from the people who run eBay. It has links, sources, and extracts to back up these claims, alot of time has gone into this article other the years with updates and loads of detail, you will need alot of time to read it. The article seems to go all the way back to 2002 and the last revision was 6/1/2014. You can see that the people who run eBay might as well be on another planet from there ramblings there seem very disconnected from reality, but we all knew that anyhow.
Messing about with Google trends searches related to the terms eBay is dead and it seems as time goes on there are more and more searches I wonder why…
Digital goods and PayPal just don’t go, we know that, but what about services? seems there not protected either if this is anything to go by. Here we have a story of a web designer who did everything right and everything went wrong, even when PayPal was presented with the huge string of back and forth emails between the 2 parties which made note the client was happy and then the email which was basically saying i’m going to scam you ha! PayPal even tried to weasel there way out over definitions of wording, you try that with them and see how they react very 1 sided. In the end PayPal decided to not chase the designer for the money but he still loses the money.
Came across this pretty far out idea that PayPal at one point in there painful history decided to create demand for there service by unleashing a series of bots on eBay to go and buy up items and demand the seller accepted you guessed it PayPal as the payment method. Now this might sound a little crazy, but lets be honest here has PayPal ever played by the normal rules? I would guess this was way back before eBay bought up PayPal, prob in the BidPay era which was the preferred processor on eBay at one point. I will try and find more on this.
Sources : http://redd.it/1ry77s
The PayPal wars book this is in (Amazon link)
transferGo – Is another one of those international money transfer services, claims to be cheap compared to the rest has some nice little charts and things, are UK based (gives a London address) has there FSA numbers and HMRC numbers all listed which is nice for a change. There main claim to fame is there speed, guaranteeing next day completion. Have a look if you need it.
Link : transfergo.com/en/home
I have seen this a few times now, its quite interesting as eBay seems/or can’t be bothered to do anything about it. In this situation a buyer buys some DVD’s they don’t match the description there basically scrap but anyhow the situation gets to a point where the buyer leaves the seller a negative feedback, fast forward a bit and the buyer is now selling some DVD’s and the buyer is in the same area as the seller who sold him the bad DVD’s and leaves negative feedback seemingly unrelated to the DVD’s, coincidence? (the seller swears they was working)
Randomly Googling for peoples eBay problems and came across this concept, a all in kit on what you would need to scam woman on eBay. I would presume this kind of thing still goes on and has just evolved into newer more complex scam processes. As eBay evolves so do the scammers as we now know.Amazes me someone put it all together. Worth a look anyhow.
Pops up allot this, usually in the motors section. I am sure at some point everyone’s seen a listing with something along the lines of “Reserve the right to end early as listed elsewhere”. The question is who is right in this situation? If the item has no bids and is still running and you sell it somewhere else then yes I can see ending it early as being ok, however what if the item has bids? sure you can cancel them and there are many eBay rules about this (cant end in last 12hrs, cant end with bids in last 24hrs etc.) including the new charge one but that’s not going to help, and finally what as what has been sent in here what happens if you had the item as a “Buy it now” and it sells while you have sold it off somewhere else? There’s basically nothing you can do.
Found this strange eBay buyer, who actually wants to return a shirt to a seller because it “makes him sweat too much” I can’t figure out how the shirt does this. His had if for 60 days at this point too so there is that, and I am not sure sweating in it is a reason for a dispute but you know eBay buyers…
Here’s what the buyer has to say :
“I know it’s been some time since I bought this but would you consider allowing me to return this shirt. I break out into a sweat when wearing this & this is not good for my health since I do have a heart problem. Thank you.”
krsk.24au.ru/ - Is a Russian language auction site, apparently its quite popular over there, I can’t find anything on the site and I can’t read it (Google translate made a even bigger mess of it). Seems to have buy it now style auctions and normal auctions, various online stores advertise on there for the Russian region I presume since there all in Russian too. With all the problems Russian buyers have or don’t have (that list would get big) with international eBay sites maybe it could be of use to them
Link : krsk.24au.ru/
Propertyroom.com – Is a site which sells goods/items on behalf of various agencies. Sometimes there stuff, sometimes lost items/stolen recovered etc.. Site is US based, takes PayPal and other better payment methods, was setup in 1999 so its been around a while. I was told some of the prices on some of the stuff is quite good, I assume due to the nature of there items and there service there’s not going to be much in the way of customer service and guarantee’s.
Link : www.propertyroom.com/
Found this post from 2012 about a seller who has won a dispute that a buyer opened against him for a item that he did not receive because it ended up in some kind of mail depot, anyhow the seller wins the case as they was able to show the mail company screwed up and have the item… however the buyer can still leave the seller negative feedback even after getting a full refund and it being shown the sellers not at fault.
Here is a example of whats going wrong with eBay, if this is what passes for a Top Rated seller/Premier service seller then well…
This seller has clocked up as of 11am 13/10/13 about 50 negative feedback with the average being about 8-11 per day every day for the last 3/4 days. The problem as one slighty p*ssed off eBay user told me is the seller listed a cd drive gadget at £5.99 posted, then refunded who ever bought it, relisted it at a higher price £7.99 (I think was mentioned) then expected everyone to pay the now increased price, of course eBay users are not so forgiving as this seller has now found out. Now the seller had sold 100′s of the drive at the £5.99 price thanks in part to the Hot UK deals site (it made the top on there) so I am sure he can be expecting a fair few more negatives in the coming days.
Are your items not showing up in eBay’s search? are you still being charged for them? wonder if you can get a refund from eBay? Well its in the new user agreement that all these things are your fault basically and you will not be getting a refund if for what ever reason eBay decide to make your listings invisible. Charging for something your not getting legal? I would think not but this is eBay we on about…
Yes as the title says, here is a really odd PayPal dispute/chargeback/robbed seller story. Basically in some countries PayPal have a temporary credit facility called “Pay me later” 30/90 day credit I think it is anyhow… someone bought a sellers laptop paid for it using this PayPal issued credit (using a fake ID of course), when the real person disputed it PayPal reversed the funds from… PayPal! now PayPal vowed to work with the buyers credit card company to get it sorted who are…. PayPal in this case! now PayPal also decided to issue the seller a chargeback fee from PayPal for PayPal! getting good this. Go read up and get confused.
For any number of reasons at any one time I guess eBay and PayPal are involved in many, many different legal disputes. Here are 2 users cheque’s they never cashed that was part of a payout by eBay for the whole sum of $0.01c, personally I would have put the cheque on eBay.
Stumbled across this while Googling for our site, just looking about seeing whats happening in the great world of Google, anyhow found this “Why eBay should disappear tomorrow” lists a few good reasons that we shall mirror here, I found them because they credited a image from here so we are going to use their image which they got from here, which we prob got from somewhere else in some kind of sick imagecepetion joke :p
Grabbed a few random comments from a thread about PayPal, mostly they was not very friendly here are a few of them.
Here is a example of a PayPal phishing email, interestingly the mail says some crap about the money being taken from the senders PayPal account and being put on hold until the seller confirms they have sent the item with a tracking number, I think they was hoping you would not think the £/$0 balance would look odd if PayPal are holding the money in some kind of weird escrow state, by the time you worked it out you would have already shipped the item.
Here’s quite a long text conversation taken during a PayPal scam on the 2nd hand item site CraigsList (like Gumtree), the scammer tries to get the sellers name, most likely to make there scammy PayPal look a like mail look a bit more legitimate, anyhow in this case sadly for the scammer they fail, but theirs a bit of comedy at the end which the scammer does not seem to understand.
Here’s a slightly confusing bit of scamming involving every scammers seemingly favorite brand Apple and one of there favorite items the iPhone. In this case a woman was selling her iPhone (don’t say how or where) and she got a mail from PayPal (which was fake) telling her it had been sold and paid for, somewhere in all this she contacted (?) PayPal and was told that the 1st so called PayPal mail was a fake, anyhow she decided to ship out a box of condoms instead. Updated corrected story below
Link : redd.it/1nxb2g
Here was the deal -> I received and email saying I received a payment so I processed the parcel to be sent. Went to the post office and they said there is a new law and she had to check if any courier would send a phone as far as it needed to go. The courier said he recognised the area it was going to and that this week alone there has been a staggering amount of scams from uk to other countries on phones so I phoned paypal and she said they have never contacted me and I have never received money into my account before as this was my first time using it for this purpose. She also detailed to me what an email should say and the one I received was so close apart from one detail I noticed straight away. If it hadn’t been for the girl explaining the new law and what an email contains id be £400 down
In a totally unrelated search stumbled across this bidorbuy.co.za which seems like some kind of African version of eBay. It’s in English (I don’t know what languages they speak down in Africa), they have there own payment system integrated with there local banks so no need for cards, they also take PayPal :/, the fees seem lower than eBay (5%) there’s no upfront listing fee so that’s a plus.
Link : www.bidorbuy.co.za/
Wiki article on the site : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidorbuy
Came across this in a bit of junk mail, its that site that seems to pop up every time you search for anything and you end reading bits of peoples reviews (mostly car stuff). Well it seems they have themselves a classified ad site, theirs no fees so that’s a good start, its backed by a name that’s been around a while and it seems fairly active. Seems a bit of a alternative to Craigs List and Gumtree.
Link : www.preloved.co.uk/
Got a mail from the nice people over at BuyVCC.com, they now have a help page up with some different guides on various eBay/PayPal related matters for people who have been screwed over by the drones working the services over at eBay. Some of the topics covered accessing eBay safely, how eBay/PayPal track you and how to work around these things. Anyway take a look links below :
The guides : buyvcc.com/getting-started/
I’m sure other people have ran into this strange problem and its not just me, I have noticed over time that most 2nd hand/used items on eBay tend to be selling for more than if I just went out and purchased them new (or Amazon or where ever). Why is this? surely that makes no sense, the idea of eBay is to save money but I guess with all the madness it creates this is just another symptom, I’m going to call it “eBay syndrome” where people think just because its on eBay its the best deal in the world. Many times in the past I have purchased items somewhere else then eBay even if they was £2/3/4/5 more just because you never quite know whats going to happen with eBay since they place themselves above any and all rules/regulations/laws.
What are your experiences with this?
Stumbled across this, a tool that uses RSS feeds to notify you instantly (I guess) when someone leaves you feedback, thought it was worth posting due to the top comment on it :
I dedicate enough to ebay as it is than monitoring for some tard leaving me a neg. Id rather spend the time on my own site than bother with this.
Says it all sadly…
Had these sent in, quite shocking just looking at them. What are people thinking when they get into these situations, what is going through someones mind to complain about a £0.06p lunch box, are these people stable enough to use a computer? Read on and take note.
Found this, a item was shipped in a recycled food box it seems, I can only imagine the grief the seller got for doing this, as on eBay your meant to ship all your items in armored boxes with free gold plating and have them hand delivered before a buyer has even bought it if the way buyers go on is anything to go by. I once shipped a t shirt in a unused burger box (I was buying rejected packing material in bulk) which I turned inside out and all hell broke lose so.
Small collection of peoples view’s on eBay I gathered up from a long thread about eBay and its general setup and it seems people are not happen at all.
Small page lists a few common PayPal scams and how they work, quite short but worth reading. We also mirrored it.
Came across this one, not sure what to say on it. Someone was selling there in game items for real money cash (i’m sure this goes on all day long), all was going well until the next day when they got a email from PayPal account “unauthorized account activity” and the money reversed (charge back?) with PayPal chasing the seller (as usual). Now i’m not even sure if digital items are allowed to be sold and payments put thru PayPal I know eBay no longer allow it and there must be a physical item to go with it at least. This would seem to be a excellent scam to gather up free game items or even worse virtual currency’s which the scammer could then sell/use for whatever.
Strange case this one, buyer buys a laptop it does not appear, tracking numbers (this is the interesting bit) say it does, buyer wins case anyhow… around a month later the case is reopened this time siding with the seller based on the tracking info. PayPal state they “may” take the money back regardless. Now the amount of times I have heard there is no way a case can be reopened and here one is reopened… shows nothing is quite as simple as it seems with PayPal also the choice of wording was a bit bad “may” you can never get a straight yes or no with them. Also it seems they only bothered to check the shipping info once (or did they?) as it did not work the 1st time hence the buyer winning, it would be all to easy to mistype a URL or a number.
Was sent this in, another eBay/PayPal & Amazon account sales site, if you need a account and for some reason can’t cut through the red tape for what ever reason, or you have been banned for something so silly just because “they say so” and can’t get through there customer service. Then here’s a site for you. They do have a free guide book called “eBay ingonito mini” for download. The prices seem inline with the other account sale type sites. The fact there’s lots of these services popping up I would figure there’s a deeper issue somewhere with the current state of eBay.
Link : auctionessistance.com/
A major problem with eBay is well basically the Chinese sellers flooding it with totally cheap items (or crap), no one can possible compete with, which leads to another problem with buyers not wanting to pay for anything actually worth something but that’s another matter. I stumbled across this post, which does give a little information on how they can ship a item all the way from Hong-Kong for £1 all in. It’s actually deeper than I thought with government subsidies being mentioned at one point to improve foreign sales and keeping employment up. Now mix that in with all the other issues it brings wrecking the local markets, lying about item locations, total disregard for customer service and you soon see eBay might as well be called ChiBay.
A strange example of eBay buyer behavior this, buyer buys a cable it gets lost in the post, the seller has the tracking info and all is true, seller refunds the buyer, now the buyer does not know what kind of feedback to leave and says they know it was not the sellers fault. Now if only the other 9/10 idiots who lurk on eBay would take note of this, the post is beyond the control of the seller!
hookedonsprockets.com - A auction site for motorbike stuff. Has “buy it now” options and auctions. Is open to users worldwide. Seems fairly active, the copyright date on the site gives 2013 but I can’t find when it was started? Interesting concept though just sticking to one thing and one thing only.
Link : www.hookedonsprockets.com
Came across another 2nd hand market place type site. Seems to be US based judging from the $ signs and locations, has a few listings, very simply design. Worth a look maybe?
Link : www.hoobly.com
User gets blocked from a sellers auctions… creates 2nd account and carries on (eBay user horror story)
This ones quite good a buyer buys loads of items from a buyer, gave him loads of grief so gets put on that sellers blocked bidder list. Now the buyer either has created a 2nd account or had one already and was free to resume buying the sellers items and back to causing him problems complaining about the items. The buyer found it was the same person because they used the same PayPal account linked up to both accounts. According to eBay it is a policy violation although I can’t find much about it, the help pages seem to point to having 2 selling accounts with problems nothing about 2 buyer accounts going wild…
A case for the VERO hawks here that seems to not be enforced, must be making eBay too much money. A seller is selling counterfeit gaming cards, seems people will rip anything off for a quick few quid. The thread is quite interesting they find the sellers background and the fact he sells large volumes of printer supplies, bought a high power microscope and large amounts of special card, his not selling the cards at the moment though who knows why.
Found this post, seems a buyer was trying to plot some kind of scam and was caught out mid scam, seems simply enough thought just demanding a refund without returning the item… fairly typical eBay behavior, if its true they follow through with the return if its not well then… the item in question a Nintendo James Bond game that’s barely worth a few £… theirs some weirdness involving 3 names which I don’t understand also in this.
Not really a bad thing, I guess it depends on how distorted your mind is but check this out :
oodle.com – Another classified ad type site like Gumtree or Craigslist. Seems to be US based, has quite a number of listings on it so that’s a good sign. Loads of categories.
Valorebooks.com – Is another book trading site aimed at college/university students to buy and sell there used text books and has a option to rent them. The prices on the front page is in $ so I presume the sites US based.
Link : www.valorebooks.com
Ok, not eBay but I guess we could say its part owned so we should post it, this thread I found is very interesting it’s listing just some of the totally crazy incidents that have happened with people who have been conducting sales on Craigslist, and some of the stories are crazy, theirs serial killers, stalkers, prostitutes offered in part payments for a sofa (this happens alot apparently), crack for DVDs all sorts. I think its where all the eBay buyers end up or something.
LINK : redd.it/1l4g2y
Could not get onto eBay’s forums this morning and the site was up and half up and then down and who knows what else, it was not just me the BBC reported on it (many many hours later lol) I got a screenshot from one of those “is it up” type sites at 8:53am this morning, looks like some the pages has changed what stupid multi marketing push there on now I don’t know, but I assume it means more ads and more crap being pushed in your face.
Had this sent in, another example of the kind of buyers you can run into daily on eBay. Read his feedback, there moaning on 99p items, luckily I guess he got neutrals instead of negatives, I think a neutral carries 3/4 the weight of a negative though, not totally sure?
From what I gather though it seems that items at a certain price level (under £5/£10?) will attract the most grief, these are the people who don’t want replacements or help they just go wild…
Stumbled across this and had to post it because I cannot believe there is actually a help book on the subject of how to deal with bad buyers. Has the problem really got that bad? has it really come to this? I think eBay need to listen and listen hard as it has got this bad. I’m sure the book is fine and all (the reviews are all good 4/5 out of 5), I’m just blown away that we actually need it! I bet if you look hard enough you can find this fine piece of work on a CD as a PDF possible even with digital delivery on your favorite auction site.. then you can dispute it and get it for free all for 99p!