eBay user horror story : “HeWhoHasAnEar.com” 20yr+ customer

A reader of this site has left his story in the comments, a very well written post that I think deserves a bit more attention, so I am posting it on the front page. The story basically shows that even a eBay user for 20 years can get thrown away in a matter of a month over some dodgy eBay DSR maths in this case the defect rate. We all know the DSR system does not work and this proves it again.

http://hewhohasanear.com

Link : http://whyebaysucks.info/when-a-ebay-buyer-wont-leave-feedback-with-paypal-holds/#comment-35983

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When a ebay buyer won’t leave feedback with PayPal holds

Thanks to the people at eBay who made the decision to put holds on people’s payments until they get feedback for a item or a set number of items, this problem has sprung up. In you could in theory sell a 100+ items but if no one would leave you feedback you stuck waiting on the money, money you could badly need, you are after all running a business. Well take a look at the following picture, it shows a eBay seller constantly asking for feedback and not getting it as far as I know until he loses it :

ebay seller demands positive feedback

In his case it seems he has under 25 positive feedbacks and PayPal are holding his money until he gets to 25+. See the problem there?

PayPal user horror story : “We froze your account but you can have a loan!”

Found this rather confusing post today, a company had $20,000 ish in their PayPal account it was their primary payment processor (mistake 1), PayPal at some point decides its a awesome idea to freeze the account with $20K in it, after the company had only had the account a month. After a few months the company starts getting offers/adverts/communications for a so called PayPal “working capital loan” a type of business loan you pay back via your transactions. Now how can PayPal mark your account as a risk and freeze your funds yet say your account is good enough for a loan????

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eBay scammer scams buyer then demands items back (LoL)

YouTube recommended this video for me and it’s quite a good one. Basically eBay buyer, buys a phone in this case a Samsung Galaxy of some sort, never gets the phone, never gets the refund either, eBay & PayPal say “sorry so what” leaving him high and dry, the seller meanwhile closes up shop/jumps eBay accounts/changes user names etc. some time passes and oddly 2 boxes of phones & assorted phone accessories arrive at the scammed buyers house, now here it gets interesting because the scammer has the nerve to ask the buyer to send back the box’s at his cost. Watch the video it’s worth it :p

 

eBay scammer, steals ID of the the agent investigating him?

Came across this quite complex eBay scammer. A eBay scam that started off as a plan to defraud eBay’s insurance programs (buyer protection/seller protection) through the use of various accounts the article lists around 40-50, he would provide fake documents/info from either side to get refunds. Now here is where it gets interesting the scammer was able to obtain the ID of the US postal inspector investigating him, he then used to that to obtain access to a site for law enforcement officers and was partly successful in some attempts, then used info he found in there to open more eBay accounts.

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PayPal “”lose”” $2500 somehow…

Strange story this, a user tries to transfer money to his PayPal account… it never makes it there. He used PayPals bank to bank transfer system to load the funds into his PayPal account. Although the transfer was accepted it seems the problem was not adding the account to PayPal first, yet it happily accepted the transfer? No neither the bank or PayPal know where the money has gone…

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Woman becomes wannabe drop shipper for scammer… buyers get scammed…

A woman was contacted by someone she did not know on Facebook to sell Apple Mac computers on eBay… what could wrong? Anyhow she is left with a £3,000 bill to pay back to the wronged buyers, but there is a silver lining in all this eBay said she does not have to pay the £170 fees so that’s good I guess.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286219/Christmas-ruined-Mother-four-devastated-left-3-300-debt-falling-Facebook-scammer-convinced-sell-iMacs-eBay.html

Link : www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3286219/Christmas-ruined-Mother-four-devastated-left-3-300-debt-falling-Facebook-scammer-convinced-sell-iMacs-eBay.html

Collection of comments from eBay users. There thoughts on eBay/PayPal

Here is another random collection of comments gathered up from a UK Daily Mail article on the wonder that is eBay and how it is making people millions from there spare rooms… I really did genuinely struggle to find anyone actually praising eBay in the comments at all, it was like there was no positive comments, I went thru pages looking the ranking system was no help all the highest ranked comments were anti-eBay, so what does that tell you?

Link to the story : www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3170820/How-rake-17million-year-without-leaving-spare-room-eBay-rich-list-ranks-30-Brits-ve-fortunes-site.html#reader-comments

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All the hard work you do you basically working for Ebay hardly making profit & still pay Ebay Fees.

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Why not to leave your card details linked to a debt in PayPal

Heres a example showing why you should not leave PayPal with any valid bank details if you have a issue with them. In this example the problem is basically the user had a $4 subscription with PayPal for some online service or other, but the user had a list of disputes on going and when was all said and done owed PayPal $1,120 which they could not get at until they went to debit the $4 sub… you can see what happens next PayPal not only take that $4 but the whole $1,120 on the back of it. So beware.

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A kind of “Magic?” now “Gather” round for a tale of eBay woe

eBay user horror story involving a large amount of cash in this instance $1173 from a sale of Magic The Gathering cards gone very, very wrong. In this case we will see how the buyer used a stolen eBay account, stolen PayPal account (what’s worse it was his family’s!) to abuse the eBay seller guarantee to get his money back and return a box of stuff, the end result eBay says :

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Somewhat related pic found via Google :p

 

That’s the cost of doing business

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Facebook working on eBay alternative?

Found this interesting article in a UK paper not too long ago. The story being covered is that Facebook are rolling out more seller friendly search tools, options and pages. It’s not quite eBay yet more like a Facebook/Gumtree/Freecycle hybrid, but its any step away from eBay is a step in the right direction.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3078186/Facebook-takes-eBay-Latest-features-help-buy-second-hand-goods-advertised-social-network.html

Link : www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3078186/Facebook-takes-eBay-Latest-features-help-buy-second-hand-goods-advertised-social-network.html

eBay VERO story “From Vero to Zero in 24hrs”

Another tale from the VERO department hell that is eBay. In this case its a US company trying to claim there copyrights stand in the UK, when the UK patent office people are saying its a generic item. Anyhow the end result due to the incompetent fools that run eBay is one mans business gone just like that in 24hrs and yet he did nothing wrong.

ebay vero watching copyright trademarks takedown
eBay has eyes, shame there never open!

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A tale of VERO, rivalry, false trademark claims and eBay

A post from 2013 detailing how one eBay user was pushed out of business due to a rivals false trademark claims and abuse of eBay’s VERO program. It basically points out eBay don’t even bother to check if the so called rights owner is the rights owner and leaves you with no way to appeal basically washing there hands of there matter and telling you to sort the issue out with the person/company making the claims, can see that ending well…

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eBay law supersedes earth law!

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Stupid eBay or stupid users?

Stumbled upon a blog post by someone upset with eBay so we are going to mirror it and link it, its quite interesting in that its calling you stupid if you still sell on eBay, depends on how you look at that. It covers some of the more hidden parts of the eBay user agreement and how they have basically been twisted to benefit eBay and screw you at whatever cost. From what I can make out the post is from September 2013, I assume these parts are still in the agreement or reworded because these things still go on and are still complained about today.

 http://readthisshit.com/stupid-eba/#.VQSL3tKsXw0

Link : http://readthisshit.com/stupid-eba/#.VQSL3tKsXw0

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Collection of comments from eBay users. There thoughts on eBay/PayPal

Random collection of users thoughts on eBay/PayPal gathered up from various places wherever eBay just happened to be mentioned, maybe its worth noting that in any totally unrelated forum post, thread, email at any point someone mentions eBay or PayPal a crap load of stories start coming out from random users, what does that tell you? The original thread could have been about how to shave a cat, but the min eBay somehow works its way in there everything goes to sh*t.

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eBay fan art

There are tales where paypal freeze your account for upto 180 day, and the can because you agree to it when you sign up.

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Classic eBay “send a photo of the item scam” still alive and well (Apple Mac scam)

From todays Daily Mail. The classic bid on item, win it for stupid low price, get sent a photo of the item. This scam is older than eBay, yet still manages to work very well, popping up from time to time. A bad seller will put a tiny disclaimer somewhere in the listing that it is really for a picture/photo/artist rendition of the item. Way back it used to be hidden using clever HTML and Java to cover it up when eBay used to allow scripts and things in ads.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2939440/Surfer-duped-eBay-scam-selling-board-help-buy-300-laptop-sent-photograph-computer.html

Link : www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2939440/Surfer-duped-eBay-scam-selling-board-help-buy-300-laptop-sent-photograph-computer.html

Collection of comments from eBay users. There thoughts on eBay/PayPal

A small collection of thoughts on eBay/PayPal that have been recently gathered up from various threads some from eBay’s own forums, which don’t stay on there too long as you can guess. Again the same old stories crazy fees and buyers lies along with no support from eBay.

ebay sales numbers falling sellers leaving
Clueless as usual

Back in the day eBay was awesome. Now it’s just a front for actual stores/small businesses. The normal person can’t use it for what it was originally intended. Plus, they nickel & dime you to death.
They can go fuck themselves.

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Random search terms for today

Looking thru the stats and noticed some odd search terms so thought I would put them up here.

  • chinese ebay alternative
  • nokia+brick+phone
  • Amazon Local Daily Offer
  • anyone opened paypal dispute pram

A Chinese eBay alternative with all the Chinese crap on every eBay site you would think they would not need to go no where else. Sites traffic shows a steady increase yet again, with a short spike for yesterday, theirs always a spike when a major eBay issue or change comes along.

Collection of comments from PayPal users. There thoughts on PayPal

A collection of random comments from PayPal showing there own users thoughts on PayPal. One of the most common themes is that people only use PayPal because they have no choice, that’s not a very good way of cementing customer loyalty, there only using you but they hate you, the minute a alternative comes along your users will run.

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It doesn’t matter one bit if you could prove you were wronged in court; they have their own self-made laws and live in their own little reality.

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Collection of comments from eBay users. There thoughts on eBay/PayPal

Every time I gather up a pile of random comments from a thread, story or article the comments about eBay/PayPal are usually around 90-95% negative, this is happening over and over again. How eBay are managing to stay afloat when it seems 90% of there users hate them is beyond me. 2 of the most common complaints seem to be eBay’s taking a cut of postage via eBay AND then PayPal too, also buyers who don’t pay who then start up cases in revenge.

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All aboard! the eTantic!

By far the least trustworthy party on eBay is eBay themselves…..

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Short story on eBay’s latest price hike.

Some information about another eBay fee increase. The gap between fee increases is getting alot shorter these days. Some of these increases just make no sense and some are just over the top £1 for a subtitle?

I think what might have really p*ssed people off this time was the fee increase came the same day the site crashed bad, obviously money was being well spent on the backend there…

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Don’t make that face you love it!

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Comments from a story about ‘eBay millionaires’

Interesting story in the DailyMail a paper in the UK about a group of people who are eBay millionaires, about as likely as winning the lottery if the comments are anything to go by. We have mirrored them here, some are quite interesting from companies who wish to dump eBay even though there making £1000’s a week,  which just go to show how bad this situation is getting. The new “your paying for returns” has been mentioned as a factor also which is showing some people might actually read those eBay emails. I went thru ALL the comments (to try and paint a unbiased picture) on the story and there was only 2/3 on eBay’s side, game over.

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About as likely as a lotto win.

“It’s not if they screw you its when.”

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Crazy seller threatens to go to buyers house over headphones… (eBay user horror story 05/14)

Heres a story about a seller, and 1 of the few that screwed eBay up by going that bit too far. In this case we have a buyer who purchased something, never got it, started a case up, the seller then sends the item (they did AFTER the case), eBay sides with the buyer in the case and refunds the buyer, the seller then threatens to go to the buyers house and get his money. The seller did actually send the item as the buyer noticed the date on the postmarked stamp was after the case was closed. 3 weeks to ship the item. Total mess this.

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Close enough, the message is correct though.

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PayPal user horror story with a twist (1 of there own exec’s)

Randomly strolling through a newspaper and found this ‘No excuses, zero tolerance’: PayPal exec FIRED after bizarre late-night Twitter rant against colleagues he had known for less than two months . Rakesh ‘Rocky’ Agrawal only worked at PayPal for 2 months, for some reason decided to go on Twitter rant about the company and people who worked there. He was the strategy manager and from what I can see not a good one at that, with this latest tactical move…

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Zero tolerance when it affects them, for everyone else well..

 

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Users comments on the wonder that is eBay

Here are a few user comments from 04/02/14 which were posted on a thread about the eBay alternative eBid. The amount of likes and reposts these comments were getting lead me to believe all is not as it seems over at the eBay wonderland, these are comments from eBay sellers and buyers a sad state of affairs and some good points, some small scam story’s in there too. Out of the 13 pages I went through every post was a bad one, one after another, there might have been 2/3 eBay fan posts in the lot.

ebay sellers fees not happy scam rip off
Time is running out

Source :
www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ebid-ebay-alternative-seller-upgrade-currently-49-99-1815623
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Good old “send a photo instead” eBay scam

A scam that happens all too over, you think your buying a item but get a photo of that item, happens all the time Apple stuff, high end phones, electronics don’t really matter its just a photo. Buried somewhere in the title, description will be “photo” and the hope is that someone will bid up and buy it without thinking which is the very nature of eBay buyers they never read the listings (legitimate or not) he will get his money back via the buyer protection, but it goes to show that buyers need to be more aware. The item used in this scam is a Xbox One console.

http://swns.com/news/father-paid-450-ebay-scam-xbox-received-photo-console-41174

Link: http://swns.com/news/father-paid-450-ebay-scam-xbox-received-photo-console-41174/

Returning items when they have been used for the wrong thing?

Work this out, a buyer buys a dog collar but has no dog, they bought it to wear on there head, they now want to return it, but the seller has a no returns policy and how are you going to return a item you bought and used the wrong way? who is at fault here? The stories comments generally point to “you cant win” “ebay will screw you” “pay up”

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I here there looking for one of these too.

 

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PayPal user horror story (part of anyway)

Came across a story this morning where a guy lost the $50K Twitter account “@N” a one letter user name account. I know it involves Twitter, GoDaddy mainly but the attacker who stole the account was able to get PayPal employees to just randomly hand him bits of info (credit cards, account passes) over the phone, pretending to be a PayPal employee at one point (to another PayPal employee you would think they had a check for that), so I thought it was relevant to post it up as it shows PayPal’s total stupidity also eventually the attacker explains how he was able to abuse PayPal to obtain the info he needed to get thru to GoDaddy and carry on his antics.

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Phone PayPal get someones ID easier than you think.

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thenextweb.com/socialmedia/2014/01/29/lost-50000-twitter-username/#!tLyIX

Update :

thenextweb.com/insider/2014/01/29/paypal-denies-providing-payment-information-hacker-hijacked-50000-twitter-username/#!tZSTQ

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Pre-release item listed, sold and out of dispute range?

Quite a strange one but I can see how it could happen, a seller listed in this case some baseball cards which had not yet been released, when the buyer won the item they would get it when it was released, however the time frame between the buyer winning the item and the item actually being released and then add in the suspended seller pushed the buyer over the time limit for a dispute. I am sure eBay has controls in place for this, I have seen warnings when new games consoles came out and Apple gadgets so I assume theirs something.

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eBay losing its colours?

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Article from DailyMail about eBay/PayPal (mostly it seems)

Article from the DailyMail (30/11/13) about a woman who got scammed for a pram on eBay. From what I can tell she completed the sale outside of eBay and paid via bank transfer (bad idea), but the articles comments are the real gold, generally pissed off eBay/PayPal and now even Gumtree users appearing and telling there stories. I will mirror some of the comments in case they get taken off.

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Stock photo of woman getting scammed apparently.

Link : www.dailymail.co.uk/money/bills/article-2516079/Cyber-Monday-How-bag-online-bargains-beat-cyber-scammers.html

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Web designer screwed by PayPal “Friendly Fraud” AKA Chargeback

Digital goods and PayPal just don’t go, we know that, but what about services? seems there not protected either if this is anything to go by. Here we have a story of a web designer who did everything right and everything went wrong, even when PayPal was presented with the huge string of back and forth emails between the 2 parties which made note the client was happy and then the email which was basically saying i’m going to scam you ha! PayPal even tried to weasel there way out over definitions of wording, you try that with them and see how they react very 1 sided. In the end PayPal decided to not chase the designer for the money but he still loses the money.

 

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None relevant image but still full of hatred.

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PayPal bot bought items on eBay then demanded to use PayPal to pay

Came across this pretty far out idea that PayPal at one point in there painful history decided to create demand for there service by unleashing a series of bots on eBay to go and buy up items and demand the seller accepted you guessed it PayPal as the payment method. Now this might sound a little crazy, but lets be honest here has PayPal ever played by the normal rules? I would guess this was way back before eBay bought up PayPal, prob in the BidPay era which was the preferred processor on eBay at one point. I will try and find more on this.

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Get a job at PayPal! You can steal all you want then.

Sources : http://redd.it/1ry77s

medium.com/design-startups/9411fb583205

The PayPal wars book this is in (Amazon link)

transferGo International money transfer service (PayPal alternative)

transferGo – Is another one of those international money transfer services, claims to be cheap compared to the rest has some nice little charts and things, are UK based (gives a London address) has there FSA numbers and HMRC numbers all listed which is nice for a change. There main claim to fame is there speed, guaranteeing next day completion. Have a look if you need it.

 

https://transfergo.com/en/home

Link : transfergo.com/en/home

 

Propertyroom.com – eBay alternative

Propertyroom.com – Is a site which sells goods/items on behalf of various agencies. Sometimes there stuff, sometimes lost items/stolen recovered etc.. Site is US based, takes PayPal and other better payment methods, was setup in 1999 so its been around a while. I was told some of the prices on some of the stuff is quite good, I assume due to the nature of there items and there service there’s not going to be much in the way of customer service and guarantee’s.

http://www.propertyroom.com

Link : www.propertyroom.com/

A few relevant Wiki articles (Winners curse, Buyers remorse, Friendly fraud (chargeback)

Stumbled across a few strangely relevant Wikipedia articles that could well be applied to eBay, PayPal. First up “Winners curse” which explains what some might say is auction fever with a negative end overpaying for something just to get it, second up is “Buyers remorse” which is actually covered in various eBay/PayPal protection programs (or so they say) it does have a section but is not really enforced and finally “Friendly/Chargeback fraud” which is just way too common with PayPal and people scamming away for free stuff and then PayPal slam you with the bill (so much for seller protection…)

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At least you can see her…

Links :

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winner%27s_curse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buyer%27s_remorse

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendly_fraud

 

PayPal Vs PayPal in PayPal dispute over PayPal hold on PayPals own funds

Yes as the title says, here is a really odd PayPal dispute/chargeback/robbed seller story. Basically in some countries PayPal have a temporary credit facility called “Pay me later” 30/90 day credit I think it is anyhow… someone bought a sellers laptop paid for it using this PayPal issued credit (using a fake ID of course), when the real person disputed it PayPal reversed the funds from… PayPal! now PayPal vowed to work with the buyers credit card company to get it sorted who are…. PayPal in this case! now PayPal also decided to issue the seller a chargeback fee from PayPal for PayPal! getting good this. Go read up and get confused.

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PayPal Vs PayPal in PayPal dispute, defiantly not your Pal but you will Pay!

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General comments from eBay users

Another few comments from various places from various users of eBay that once again don’t paint the wonderful picture eBay would like us to see. The usual suspects none paying bidders, masses of Chinese wholesale crap and general poor service.

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There’s a old saying about a broken looking glass… I can’t remember it right now though :p

 

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A example of a PayPal phishing style scam email

Here is a example of a PayPal phishing email, interestingly the mail says some crap about the money being taken from the senders PayPal account and being put on hold until the seller confirms they have sent the item with a tracking number, I think they was hoping you would not think the £/$0 balance would look odd if PayPal are holding the money in some kind of weird escrow state, by the time you worked it out you would have already shipped the item.

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Approved invisible funds, just like a real bank.

PayPal iPhone scam via CraigsList

Here’s quite a long text conversation taken during a PayPal scam on the 2nd hand item site CraigsList (like Gumtree), the scammer tries to get the sellers name, most likely to make there scammy PayPal look a like mail look a bit more legitimate, anyhow in this case sadly for the scammer they fail, but theirs a bit of comedy at the end which the scammer does not seem to understand.

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Kevin the pigeon, faster than Royal Mail.

PayPal iPhone scam gone very wrong

Here’s a slightly confusing bit of scamming involving every scammers seemingly favorite brand Apple and one of there favorite items the iPhone. In this case a woman was selling her iPhone (don’t say how or where) and she got a mail from PayPal (which was fake) telling her it had been sold and paid for, somewhere in all this she contacted (?) PayPal and was told that the 1st so called PayPal mail was a fake, anyhow she decided to ship out a box of condoms instead. Updated corrected story below

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Somewhere, someone has used these as a phone cover.

Link : redd.it/1nxb2g

Here was the deal -> I received and email saying I received a payment so I processed the parcel to be sent. Went to the post office and they said there is a new law and she had to check if any courier would send a phone as far as it needed to go. The courier said he recognised the area it was going to and that this week alone there has been a staggering amount of scams from uk to other countries on phones so I phoned paypal and she said they have never contacted me and I have never received money into my account before as this was my first time using it for this purpose. She also detailed to me what an email should say and the one I received was so close apart from one detail I noticed straight away. If it hadn’t been for the girl explaining the new law and what an email contains id be £400 down

bidorbuy.co.za – African eBay alternative

In a totally unrelated search stumbled across this bidorbuy.co.za which seems like some kind of African version of eBay. It’s in English (I don’t know what languages they speak down in Africa), they have there own payment system integrated with there local banks so no need for cards, they also take PayPal :/,  the fees seem lower than eBay (5%) there’s no upfront listing fee so that’s a plus.

http://www.bidorbuy.co.za

Link : www.bidorbuy.co.za/

Wiki article on the site : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidorbuy

 

Preloved – Classified Ad site

Came across this in a bit of junk mail, its that site that seems to pop up every time you search for anything and you end reading bits of peoples reviews (mostly car stuff). Well it seems they have themselves a classified ad site, theirs no fees so that’s a good start, its backed by a name that’s been around a while and it seems fairly active. Seems a bit of a alternative to Craigs List and Gumtree.

preloved vivastreet gumtree craigslist 2nd hand classified itemsLink : www.preloved.co.uk/

 

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