A seller actually won a eBay case item not as described (INAD dispute) that’s very shocking considering eBay’s treatment of sellers. So thought it was worthy of a post. eBay decided to pay the buyer and protect the seller which is odd.
More chance of this witch getting the Lottery numbers…
I paid the seller for a 2005 Yamaha Raptor 350 and ebay service is supposed to ship the machine to me in 2-3 days. I still haven\’t received my machine and ebay had made it impossible to contact them. I\’m sending a letter to both the FBI and Virginia AG a complaint for criminal charges against ebay and others. Now, where is the hell is my machine and why it has not been delivered. The order # ***********.
Could do with some of a follow up on that if possible.
Bit of a strange story this, a seller gets scammed and laughed at by a typical eBay scammer, he and his friend through a series of events manage to scam the scammer for far more than they got scammed, if all that even makes sense 🙂
Not had a update in a very long time, so time to start. Here are a few comments from a few random eBay sellers about eBay. One comment in particular stands out and thats eBay not following their own terms & conditions.
Interesting tale I found this morning on HotUKDeals in a thread about the latest PayPal offer, about a seller who got scammed for what I can only assume is a very expensive item due to them taking the time & effort to take near 4Gb of photos and video to back there claim up, was this enough for PayPal well no… so the seller gets the manufacture involved and PayPal now claim there wrong think about that for a minute. It was PayPal who requested the evidence from the manufacturer and it was still not good enough…
Came across this quite complex eBay scammer. A eBay scam that started off as a plan to defraud eBay’s insurance programs (buyer protection/seller protection) through the use of various accounts the article lists around 40-50, he would provide fake documents/info from either side to get refunds. Now here is where it gets interesting the scammer was able to obtain the ID of the US postal inspector investigating him, he then used to that to obtain access to a site for law enforcement officers and was partly successful in some attempts, then used info he found in there to open more eBay accounts.
Here is another random collection of comments gathered up from a UK Daily Mail article on the wonder that is eBay and how it is making people millions from there spare rooms… I really did genuinely struggle to find anyone actually praising eBay in the comments at all, it was like there was no positive comments, I went thru pages looking the ranking system was no help all the highest ranked comments were anti-eBay, so what does that tell you?
A post from 2013 detailing how one eBay user was pushed out of business due to a rivals false trademark claims and abuse of eBay’s VERO program. It basically points out eBay don’t even bother to check if the so called rights owner is the rights owner and leaves you with no way to appeal basically washing there hands of there matter and telling you to sort the issue out with the person/company making the claims, can see that ending well…
Stumbled upon a blog post by someone upset with eBay so we are going to mirror it and link it, its quite interesting in that its calling you stupid if you still sell on eBay, depends on how you look at that. It covers some of the more hidden parts of the eBay user agreement and how they have basically been twisted to benefit eBay and screw you at whatever cost. From what I can make out the post is from September 2013, I assume these parts are still in the agreement or reworded because these things still go on and are still complained about today.
Random collection of users thoughts on eBay/PayPal gathered up from various places wherever eBay just happened to be mentioned, maybe its worth noting that in any totally unrelated forum post, thread, email at any point someone mentions eBay or PayPal a crap load of stories start coming out from random users, what does that tell you? The original thread could have been about how to shave a cat, but the min eBay somehow works its way in there everything goes to sh*t.
There are tales where paypal freeze your account for upto 180 day, and the can because you agree to it when you sign up.
From todays Daily Mail. The classic bid on item, win it for stupid low price, get sent a photo of the item. This scam is older than eBay, yet still manages to work very well, popping up from time to time. A bad seller will put a tiny disclaimer somewhere in the listing that it is really for a picture/photo/artist rendition of the item. Way back it used to be hidden using clever HTML and Java to cover it up when eBay used to allow scripts and things in ads.
Little bit of a story from a eBay TSR (Top Rated Seller) that shows just how fast eBay can knock you right off and back into nothing at any time, in this case in less than 3 weeks. It also shows eBay’s varying interpretations of there own rules at different times of the day…
eBay has A lot of there policy violations and shut downs done by automatic bots with no human involvement .
For this reason I would suggest follow the rules and never go buy what a customer service rep tells you because they won’t be there when you get shut down permanently .
A old article from 2010 telling the story of how a hijacked eBay account was used to list guitars that never existed, the hijacked account was used to list about mil of items all guitars. The article brings up a problem with eBays report item feature.. you could report them 1 at a time, now there was about 4600 listings… so who’s going to bother. eBay was only ending the ones that someone did report still leaving loads up.
A video detailing one sellers story dealing with a slightly nut job buyer who filed a chargeback and had the payment reversed by PayPal under “unauthorized charge” when the buyer signed for the item and a few other weird twists in the story, dispute after dispute for what ever reason all relating to this one item in a back and forth battle. The thing is this buyer was doing this regular to various sellers for varying amounts. Eventually the seller won (got a lotto ticket?)
PS: She reveals a interesting fact right at the end, with the BBB (Better Business Bureau) that PayPal have a “A++” rating, yet they have 6,600 or so complaints against them… the reason you may ask? apparently one of the head people from PayPal or eBay is on the BBB’s board of directors… think about that…
Short article from MSN UK Money that lists a few of the higher profile scams that sellers have pulled off on eBay in the last few years, they list a second chance offer scam, a fake ticket scam, empty box scams and even 1 incident where someone made a completely fake eBay site I guess in a effort to grab ID’s.
Had these very interesting screenshots sent in, there the feedback pages from a seller who at the time had over 3000 items listed, you will notice a reoccurring theme, mainly items not turning up, yet the buyer signed for them? my favorite is 1 incident where a buyer has opened a case against the seller, lost and then left negative feedback about it, how can eBay allow that? the buyers claim was found to be BS so how come the sellers still suffering for it???
2 small experiences of eBay from 2 sellers. One of them lost his store, again to the DSR problems relating to dispatch time (we all know how that really works) and the other about a buyer who refused to send back a “apparent” broken item.
Had these 2 links sent in which have very detailed articles on various issues with eBay’s feedback system, they have been published on eBay UK in the “buying guides” that thing where people write about things (items mostly) to help other people with similar interests. Amazingly there still up, which is odd because eBay seems to have eyes everywhere, nothing bad can be said about the master after all. Defiantly worth a read.
A story from 2012 detailing how eBay took a profit making business and drove it into the ground, the end result being the staff on job seekers allowance. The reason given for this mess seems to be in the DSR system which everyone knows is a complete load of crap, in this case the seller had got 13 low DSRs based on a sales figure of about £12k to £15k a month so I don’t know how many items that is, the article says it was 2% of the sales that left the low scores, 13 out of 568 ,but this seems totally crazy to me.
The 2nd lot of search strings relating to peoples problems with eBay. Again the “bad buyers” list makes its weekly appearance, it actually shows up 2/3/4 times a day now at least, shows where the problem is coming from.
www.amfor.net/eBay/ – A small single page on eBay, that gets allot in. Describes some of eBay’s secret policies, the bad way they treat buyers and sellers, fees on top of fees, the buyer protection racket, auto holds, feedback manipulation, selling limits and other things. Seems to be last updated in early 2012.
A eBay user sells a random box of Xbox items, label goes wrong, buyer still gets it claims he does not eBay refund him, then the buyer relists the items even in the same packaging he got them in, the very next day! Is it possible the buyer saw a opportunity here? or was this part of a long thought out money making scam? its eBay probably both…
Another user scammed out of a favorite item for item scammers/abusers a Blackberry phone, high end electronics are always a favorite. This scam involved a PayPal dispute for “not as described” a mail forwarding company and the return of a cheap watch instead of the phone.
From the people who bought you the excellent services of BuyVCC a new forum called eCommerce forums to help you in your hour of need when eBay/PayPal screw you and they will, so screw them right back. New forum building up quite nicely.
A small story from a user/victim of PayPal selling a service only to have it charge backed against him some weeks later and PayPal tell him suddenly he owes them money… what is the point of there so called “seller protection” its not worth the pixels its printed on…
Absolute madness, buyer claims a violin is counterfeit, files a dispute with PayPal, PayPal tell the buyer to smash it up and ask for a photo of the destruction as proof due to some bizarre policy where they believe that posting counterfeit goods is against the law, yet no proof of weather or not a item is genuine or counterfeit is needed (3rd party/legal or otherwise). I can see a very good scam being run here if you was bored enough…
Quite recent 03/12/12. Story of a seller trying to sell off his old iPhone getting let down badly by PayPals seller protection program, with some really bad shortfalls in the policy being exposed such as “PayPal stating that I am in fact NOT ELIGIBLE for Seller Protection for this transaction because ”not as described” chargeback apparently is not covered by Seller Protection.” few other bits ripped out of PayPals terms are covered any how long story short the buyer was able to rip 3 sellers off for 3 phones because PayPal allowed it.
This exchange between a buyer and seller highlights the none paying bidder riot that is eBay and what happens when the seller fights back, I remember reading about this one when it first went down about 2yrs ago on Reddit. The buyer left the seller high and dry after winning some sports tickets so the seller pretends to be a 3rd person wanting to buy the tickets from the 1st buyer, appeals to the 1st buyers greed (makes stupid offer) then goes and sells them to 1st buyer and then the 3rd buyer just vanish’s, leaving buyer 1 with some useless paper.